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experiment. You said once that men saw and felt nature but that women were nature. It is true? spirit and earth. The Christian theologians did a terrible job measuring? up human thinking. They vilified and destroyed woman's respect for what she really was. They also destroyed men's' self respect. It seems to me that what D. N? Lawrence was trying to say was "Let the men be male (spirit) and let the women be female (mother nature)". There has always been something mystical to me in the sex act. Women hate that. They want a man's penis and his spirit to be poured into them as an individual person. I understand now the things you wrote about modern men. I guess the women are going too take revenge for all men have done to them for centuries.