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4) the same time we were taken down River while Traveling. Skin'to dela"?? Carlos was taken from me by a Pima woman. Soon after my other girl (Co da' tis. Coa) was taken away. Myself & baby was then taken to a war Torture Dance - took away my Baby by women took a sharp pointed stick & run it through the jaws (like a gag). Returned to me & made me dance & torturing me while dancing. Then they began to cut me & child with hatchets, clubs & - the last I remember of seeing my Baby. I was holding it and firmly clasped to my breast, it's the last I ever seen of my poor Baby Boy. The next thing I remember is I was awakened up next morning on Bank of a Ditch my face down. Could hardly turn but my Boy was not with me any more. Then I began to see of my Horrible Torture. I was found later by an P. Indian. He took me to camp. There my youngest daughter was brought to me. They allowed to stay with me until next Evening. They asked for her young brother. I told all I Recollect. The then told me that she was going to be taken away off . & she would never see me again. She is the only one knows that her youngest Brother was tortured to death &c. Carlos & Maria never knew if from me for I never have seen my poor children since until I met Maria in unclear City. I never was molested after I was found alive by the P. Indian.