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was there. then Hooker looked at me and said well go and sit down then. Q. did you visit the lava beds before the massacre and if so did you go alone or with some one else. A. the first time I went to the Lava beds I was with Squire Steele of Yreka Calif and John Fairchilds also of Calif. - Q. interrupting Verry shortly before the massacre A. Some time before. well I was in Capt Jack strong hold several times before the massacre Q. State why you went in there A. to carry messages and read and interpret them to the Indians my wife and I took a written message to Capt Jack one day in April I read it to him interpreted to him and give him the message and told him to have it with him when he and his men mett the commissioners he threw it on the ground and said am I a white man that you give me this piece of paper. I can not read. I do not want it I can and will meet you with out this paper he said I will meet the commissioners this side of the peace tent and no where else pointing to a certain land Mark about one mile from the peace tent Q. a mile nearer to his strong hold than the peace tent A. Yes. Jack said then that was all he had to say I could hear the others talking and sort of making light of the peace commissioners as much as to say out right they did not care for the peace commissioners