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<!-- T. Orval Nielsen ... theodore.nielsen@gmail.com, edits to translation  Sept 19 2017 -->
The Angel of the Lord bore this figure to Daniel,
while he sat chained in the den* of lions; and he said to him: <!-- ("lacu" is best translated as a "holding tank" in this usage, and not "lake" or "pond" ) -->
This is the table of the Highest God which, if you will have looked upon it,
nothing evil will come for you.
Draw this seal on(to) virgin parchments with the blood of a virgin lamb; now incense it.
These are its powers: it breaks chains and fetters, the sword will not pierce your skin. Enmity flees.
It mitigates fevers, the flow of blood, and all pains.
It drives away all the deeds of demons from the fight.
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Translation:  
Translation:  
This figure bore the Angel of Master Daniel
This figure brought the Angel of the Lord to Daniel
when he sat in the lion's den; and he said:
when he sat tied up in the lions' pit <!-- Daniel 6 -->; and he said to him (?):
This is a picture of the Highest God; when you will look at it, no harm shall come to you.
This is a 'drawing' [picture, figure, drawn map] of (from) the Highest God; when you will have looked at it, to you
no harm shall come.
 
 
Write this figure on virgin parchments
with the blood of a virgin lamb; now smoke it (?).  [I believe this advises to burn the parchment, as flame is said to release powers]
<!-- Edit T. Orval Nielsen: "to incense" the seal; the English "suffumigation" is common grimoires in the period -->
Its powers are: chains and fetters it breaks,
a sword shall not pierce the skin, enemies it drives away;
fevers, blood flowing, and all griefs it will mitigate.
and the battles of all demons it keeps off.
 
 
 
 
[KD: I'm a little uncertain about that last line, as pugna cannot agree with omnia in normative Latin. The only solutions I see are to accept that the Latin is faulty (always a possibility) or to translate it as "it keeps off all the things of demons with battle," taking pugna as an Ablative.  But I am far from certain.]
 
[KS: let's keep in mind that the author's command of Latin was certainly not perfect, and he probably took great license in his use of it, including the incorrect use of the ablative and other cases.]
 
[TN: If omnia is taken as acc and pugna as ablative "It drives away all the (workings?) of demons from the fight" is... credible.]
 
Due to its significance of the creation of a sigil is specifically created per the witch/Wiccan/pagan to mean something only they know. The text following on the next page inscribed is a lock which is used in the ancient art of alchemy. This sigil would be hard to decode unless you spoke with the creator of it. And why the sigil was bound upon the page in a lock
 
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Write in virgin parchments
Quite obviously a protective pattern, even without reading the translator notes. Double crosses sprouting from the rune for protection, were signs for the 4 elements before Christianity.  Attached to the crossbars are crescent moons. Around the symbol are boxes to enclose it like barriers or wards. It's a book or charms, so it is meant to teach.
with the blood of a virgin lamb; this seal.
Those spirits who see this seal, shall submit to the wearers will
their sword shall not pierce the skin, enemies it will drive away;
blood will not flow and all griefs subside.
Wear this {to] defend against Demons.

Latest revision as of 16:32, 28 November 2019

The Angel of the Lord bore this figure to Daniel, while he sat chained in the den* of lions; and he said to him: This is the table of the Highest God which, if you will have looked upon it, nothing evil will come for you.

Draw this seal on(to) virgin parchments with the blood of a virgin lamb; now incense it. These are its powers: it breaks chains and fetters, the sword will not pierce your skin. Enmity flees. It mitigates fevers, the flow of blood, and all pains. It drives away all the deeds of demons from the fight.

207.38.94.30

Translation: This figure brought the Angel of the Lord to Daniel when he sat tied up in the lions' pit ; and he said to him (?): This is a 'drawing' [picture, figure, drawn map] of (from) the Highest God; when you will have looked at it, to you no harm shall come.


Write this figure on virgin parchments with the blood of a virgin lamb; now smoke it (?). [I believe this advises to burn the parchment, as flame is said to release powers] Its powers are: chains and fetters it breaks, a sword shall not pierce the skin, enemies it drives away; fevers, blood flowing, and all griefs it will mitigate. and the battles of all demons it keeps off.



[KD: I'm a little uncertain about that last line, as pugna cannot agree with omnia in normative Latin. The only solutions I see are to accept that the Latin is faulty (always a possibility) or to translate it as "it keeps off all the things of demons with battle," taking pugna as an Ablative. But I am far from certain.]

[KS: let's keep in mind that the author's command of Latin was certainly not perfect, and he probably took great license in his use of it, including the incorrect use of the ablative and other cases.]

[TN: If omnia is taken as acc and pugna as ablative "It drives away all the (workings?) of demons from the fight" is... credible.]

Due to its significance of the creation of a sigil is specifically created per the witch/Wiccan/pagan to mean something only they know. The text following on the next page inscribed is a lock which is used in the ancient art of alchemy. This sigil would be hard to decode unless you spoke with the creator of it. And why the sigil was bound upon the page in a lock

<--kitsuneshoujo@gmail.com-->

Quite obviously a protective pattern, even without reading the translator notes. Double crosses sprouting from the rune for protection, were signs for the 4 elements before Christianity. Attached to the crossbars are crescent moons. Around the symbol are boxes to enclose it like barriers or wards. It's a book or charms, so it is meant to teach.