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Indeed I consider it so clearly taught in the Bible that is entirely useless | |||
to argue it. Now In regard to the object of Christ [[ | to argue it. Now In regard to the object of the death of Christ permit | ||
me, [[fullwell?]] [[m?]] at length. If I understand your views on the subject they are | |||
that the object of Christ's death was to add a | that the object of Christ's death was to add a kind of moral force & dignity | ||
his example | his example to give him the characters of a martyr to his principles like Socrates, | ||
& in order that his life & examples might make a greater impression | & in order that his life & examples might make a greater impression | ||
on mankind than the object of Christ coming into the world | on mankind than the object of Christ coming into the world | ||
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the Bible says that there is salvation in no other name you believe perhaps | the Bible says that there is salvation in no other name you believe perhaps | ||
that only so far as we copy this example & imbibe his spirit only in | that only so far as we copy this example & imbibe his spirit only in | ||
that proportion shall we be happy in this life as the next. Now I believe | |||
that Christ has set us an example which we are to follow 1 | that Christ has set us an example which we are to follow 1 Pet. .2.21 & | ||
in proportion as we might the spirit of Christ So we shall be holy & happy | |||
Let me be distinctly understood, as saying that I believe it impossible | Let me be distinctly understood, as saying that I believe it impossible | ||
for a perfectly holy being to be unhappy & that in as much as Christ | for a perfectly holy being to be unhappy & that in as much as Christ | ||
was | was holy himself undefiled, If we live like him we | ||
should be perfectly happy. But I think that there was an object in | should be perfectly happy. But I think that there was an object in | ||
Christs' death. In the first place we are all sinners & are all therefore | Christs' death. In the first place we are all sinners & are all therefore | ||
transgressors of God's law. Now there is a penalty to that law, And by | transgressors of God's law. Now there is a penalty to that law, And by | ||
this I do not mean the result of natural laws, I mean | this I do not mean the result of natural laws, I mean cruel | ||
penal infliction. Was not that the case in Eden. Were not | |||
A & E driven from the garden as a penalty for their guilt. Was that the | A & E driven from the garden as a penalty for their guilt. Was that the | ||
result of natural laws or the destruction of | result of natural laws or the destruction of Sodom & the cities of the | ||
plain. Was the judgement on Annias & S. the result of natural laws. | |||
Just look at Gen 2.17, Ezk 18.4,Rom 6.23 & Jam(es) 1.15 | Just look at Gen 2.17, Ezk 18.4,Rom 6.23 & Jam(es) 1.15 | ||
Sin is the transgression of the law & "this soul that giveth it shall die | |||
Can that mean natural death. Then read the 9th and 7th verses of Ezk 18. | |||
Placed then as we are under the law of God if we violate it we must | Placed then as we are under the law of God if we violate it we must | ||
suffer the penalty. You | suffer the penalty. You may say it is unjust or perhaps impossible | ||
for [[ | for [[asking?]] that this sinner once & then reformed & becomes perfectly holy to | ||
suffer endless punishment, so I say. But you have an extremely mistaken | suffer endless punishment, so I say. But you have an extremely mistaken | ||
idea of sin it seems to me. One sin committed polutes the whole | idea of sin it seems to me. One sin committed polutes the whole | ||
Latest revision as of 04:01, 23 May 2020
Indeed I consider it so clearly taught in the Bible that is entirely useless to argue it. Now In regard to the object of the death of Christ permit me, fullwell? m? at length. If I understand your views on the subject they are that the object of Christ's death was to add a kind of moral force & dignity his example to give him the characters of a martyr to his principles like Socrates,
& in order that his life & examples might make a greater impression
on mankind than the object of Christ coming into the world was to set us an example how to live and how to be happy. & when the Bible says that there is salvation in no other name you believe perhaps that only so far as we copy this example & imbibe his spirit only in that proportion shall we be happy in this life as the next. Now I believe that Christ has set us an example which we are to follow 1 Pet. .2.21 & in proportion as we might the spirit of Christ So we shall be holy & happy Let me be distinctly understood, as saying that I believe it impossible for a perfectly holy being to be unhappy & that in as much as Christ was holy himself undefiled, If we live like him we should be perfectly happy. But I think that there was an object in Christs' death. In the first place we are all sinners & are all therefore transgressors of God's law. Now there is a penalty to that law, And by this I do not mean the result of natural laws, I mean cruel penal infliction. Was not that the case in Eden. Were not A & E driven from the garden as a penalty for their guilt. Was that the result of natural laws or the destruction of Sodom & the cities of the plain. Was the judgement on Annias & S. the result of natural laws. Just look at Gen 2.17, Ezk 18.4,Rom 6.23 & Jam(es) 1.15 Sin is the transgression of the law & "this soul that giveth it shall die Can that mean natural death. Then read the 9th and 7th verses of Ezk 18. Placed then as we are under the law of God if we violate it we must suffer the penalty. You may say it is unjust or perhaps impossible for asking? that this sinner once & then reformed & becomes perfectly holy to suffer endless punishment, so I say. But you have an extremely mistaken idea of sin it seems to me. One sin committed polutes the whole